Complaints & Recalls
Official Safety Recalls - Important!
34 RecallsThese are official manufacturer recalls ordered by NHTSA for safety defects. If you own this vehicle, contact your dealer immediately for free repairs.
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Safety Issue:
Chrysler (FCA US, LLC) is recalling certain 2021-2024 Ram Promaster vehicles. The vehicles are missing a side door beam, and the tire placard contains incorrect seating capacity information. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard numbers 214, "Side Impact Protection" and 110, "Tire Selection and Rims."
Potential Risk:
FREE Recall Solution:
Additional Details:
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.
Mfg Campaign: 53B
Recall Date: Jun 6, 2024
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Safety Issue:
Chrysler (FCA US, LLC) is recalling certain 2021 Ram Promaster vehicles. An insecure ground connection may cause the electronic stability control (ESC) to be inoperative. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 126, "Electronic Stability Control Systems."
Potential Risk:
FREE Recall Solution:
Additional Details:
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.
Mfg Campaign: 43B
Recall Date: Apr 25, 2024
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc) (stellantis)
Safety Issue:
Chrysler (FCA US, LLC) (Stellantis) is recalling certain 2021-2022 Ram ProMaster vehicles. The wiring harness may have a poor connection, which can cause the left taillight and left turn signal to become inoperative. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 108, "Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment."
Potential Risk:
FREE Recall Solution:
Additional Details:
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.
Mfg Campaign: 21B
Recall Date: Mar 14, 2024
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Safety Issue:
Chrysler (FCA US, LLC) is recalling certain 2019-2021 Ram ProMaster vehicles equipped with a 62TE transmission. The park pawl may not fully engage the park gear due to debris inside the transmission.
Potential Risk:
FREE Recall Solution:
Additional Details:
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.
Mfg Campaign: 44A
Recall Date: Apr 27, 2023
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Safety Issue:
Chrysler (FCA US, LLC) is recalling certain 2021 Ram ProMaster City and Ram ProMaster vehicles. The seat belt automatic locking retractors may deactivate early, which can prevent the child restraint system from securing properly. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 208, "Occupant Crash Protection."
Potential Risk:
FREE Recall Solution:
Additional Details:
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.
Mfg Campaign: Y61
Recall Date: Sep 9, 2021
Consumer Complaints
81 ComplaintsChrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
LANE DEPARTURE: BLIND SPOT DETECTION
Potential Consequences:
We took the van on a trip out West in May 2022. During that time the Blind Spot Monitoring System would randomly shut off during our travels. It was random. Would happen a few time one day and none the next day. There were no warnings but the system alarm would ring when blind spot was disabled. I just had neck surgery and relied on the system during heavy traffic.
Corrective Action:
We took the van on a trip out West in May 2022. During that time the Blind Spot Monitoring System would randomly shut off during our travels. It was random. Would happen a few time one day and none the next day. There were no warnings but the system alarm would ring when blind spot was disabled. I just had neck surgery and relied on the system during heavy traffic.
Additional Notes:
We took the van on a trip out West in May 2022. During that time the Blind Spot Monitoring System would randomly shut off during our travels. It was random. Would happen a few time one day and none the next day. There were no warnings but the system alarm would ring when blind spot was disabled. I just had neck surgery and relied on the system during heavy traffic.
Mfg Campaign: 11474948
Recall Date: Jul 20, 2022
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
LANE DEPARTURE: BLIND SPOT DETECTION
Potential Consequences:
Blind Spot System constantly disables while driving under varied circumstances.
Corrective Action:
Blind Spot System constantly disables while driving under varied circumstances.
Additional Notes:
Blind Spot System constantly disables while driving under varied circumstances.
Mfg Campaign: 11468203
Recall Date: Jun 8, 2022
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
SERVICE BRAKES
Potential Consequences:
Most times when going down long grade over 6 + percent a dash warning comes on about service brake system. Once we get to flat area and turn ignition off the message goes away. We haven't had an issue braking. We are on Facebook group with other promaster 3500 and over 80 other similar vehicle owners stated this happens to them. Everyone says it's a "known problem" and not an issue and just ignore. We are worried what happens if it really is a problem. It happens every time we do mountain driving. I'd say over 10 times this year.
Corrective Action:
Most times when going down long grade over 6 + percent a dash warning comes on about service brake system. Once we get to flat area and turn ignition off the message goes away. We haven't had an issue braking. We are on Facebook group with other promaster 3500 and over 80 other similar vehicle owners stated this happens to them. Everyone says it's a "known problem" and not an issue and just ignore. We are worried what happens if it really is a problem. It happens every time we do mountain driving. I'd say over 10 times this year.
Additional Notes:
Most times when going down long grade over 6 + percent a dash warning comes on about service brake system. Once we get to flat area and turn ignition off the message goes away. We haven't had an issue braking. We are on Facebook group with other promaster 3500 and over 80 other similar vehicle owners stated this happens to them. Everyone says it's a "known problem" and not an issue and just ignore. We are worried what happens if it really is a problem. It happens every time we do mountain driving. I'd say over 10 times this year.
Mfg Campaign: 11466828
Recall Date: May 31, 2022
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Potential Consequences:
The blind spot detection system randomly turns itself off. The problem is the van is quite large with lots of blind spots, and you think the system is working because you have it turned on and it turns off by itself. Chrystler is not concerned with the problem, nor do they have a fix for it. This a safety concern that needs an immediate fix. The potential for loss of life is extremely high with this defect.
Corrective Action:
The blind spot detection system randomly turns itself off. The problem is the van is quite large with lots of blind spots, and you think the system is working because you have it turned on and it turns off by itself. Chrystler is not concerned with the problem, nor do they have a fix for it. This a safety concern that needs an immediate fix. The potential for loss of life is extremely high with this defect.
Additional Notes:
The blind spot detection system randomly turns itself off. The problem is the van is quite large with lots of blind spots, and you think the system is working because you have it turned on and it turns off by itself. Chrystler is not concerned with the problem, nor do they have a fix for it. This a safety concern that needs an immediate fix. The potential for loss of life is extremely high with this defect.
Mfg Campaign: 11464719
Recall Date: May 15, 2022
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
LANE DEPARTURE: BLIND SPOT DETECTION
Potential Consequences:
The blind spot detection system randomly turns itself off. The problem is the van is quite large with lots of blind spots, and you think the system is working because you have it turned on and it turns off by itself. Chrystler is not concerned with the problem, nor do they have a fix for it. This a safety concern that needs an immediate fix. The potential for loss of life is extremely high with this defect.
Corrective Action:
The blind spot detection system randomly turns itself off. The problem is the van is quite large with lots of blind spots, and you think the system is working because you have it turned on and it turns off by itself. Chrystler is not concerned with the problem, nor do they have a fix for it. This a safety concern that needs an immediate fix. The potential for loss of life is extremely high with this defect.
Additional Notes:
The blind spot detection system randomly turns itself off. The problem is the van is quite large with lots of blind spots, and you think the system is working because you have it turned on and it turns off by itself. Chrystler is not concerned with the problem, nor do they have a fix for it. This a safety concern that needs an immediate fix. The potential for loss of life is extremely high with this defect.
Mfg Campaign: 11464719
Recall Date: May 15, 2022
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
STEERING
Potential Consequences:
The vehicle that I have is the very short wheelbase of the Ram Promaster, the 118” one which is shorter than anything that Ford Transit of Sprinter has. The issue is that the steering is horribly sensitive, meaning that if you move the steering wheel even a tiny bit the vehicle moves a lot. It is similar to the old days of those short wheelbase Jeeps and you hear of people complaining in about steering themselves off the road. I also own a short vehicle being a Volvo XC60 but that is fine compared to this. The safety issue here, is that if a driver is not as experienced and takes their eyes off the road even for an instance that any normal reaction to the steering wheel could be deadly. I am older, in my 50’s with a a lot of experience driving and even I am nervous about this, to the point that if I sneezed I would worry about a slight movement pushing me off the road or into oncoming traffic. My question is, is there oversight on standards for a minimum amount of steering per how it affects the vehicle? I have talked with other owners of same vehicle, but they have the longer wheelbase, they have no issues, so it leads me to wonder if Ram uses the same steering on all vans, which would explain the problem, as there needs to be different steering for a very short wheelbase like mine vs a longer wheelbase vehicle. It is so bad that I will not let any of my 3 daughters drive this van. Also, when I first purchased this van new, I did reach out to Ram about this and never heard any reply, this is unacceptable. My plan going forward is to sell this van, as I recently drove a standard length Ford Transit and it drove so much safer than mine!! My hope in this email, is that the Board investigates this for safety issues, I certainly hope that no lives have been lost, and if my email can save anyone somewhere then that is a mission accomplished; And if anyone at Ram know about this and didn’t do anything then they are liable.
Corrective Action:
The vehicle that I have is the very short wheelbase of the Ram Promaster, the 118” one which is shorter than anything that Ford Transit of Sprinter has. The issue is that the steering is horribly sensitive, meaning that if you move the steering wheel even a tiny bit the vehicle moves a lot. It is similar to the old days of those short wheelbase Jeeps and you hear of people complaining in about steering themselves off the road. I also own a short vehicle being a Volvo XC60 but that is fine compared to this. The safety issue here, is that if a driver is not as experienced and takes their eyes off the road even for an instance that any normal reaction to the steering wheel could be deadly. I am older, in my 50’s with a a lot of experience driving and even I am nervous about this, to the point that if I sneezed I would worry about a slight movement pushing me off the road or into oncoming traffic. My question is, is there oversight on standards for a minimum amount of steering per how it affects the vehicle? I have talked with other owners of same vehicle, but they have the longer wheelbase, they have no issues, so it leads me to wonder if Ram uses the same steering on all vans, which would explain the problem, as there needs to be different steering for a very short wheelbase like mine vs a longer wheelbase vehicle. It is so bad that I will not let any of my 3 daughters drive this van. Also, when I first purchased this van new, I did reach out to Ram about this and never heard any reply, this is unacceptable. My plan going forward is to sell this van, as I recently drove a standard length Ford Transit and it drove so much safer than mine!! My hope in this email, is that the Board investigates this for safety issues, I certainly hope that no lives have been lost, and if my email can save anyone somewhere then that is a mission accomplished; And if anyone at Ram know about this and didn’t do anything then they are liable.
Additional Notes:
The vehicle that I have is the very short wheelbase of the Ram Promaster, the 118” one which is shorter than anything that Ford Transit of Sprinter has. The issue is that the steering is horribly sensitive, meaning that if you move the steering wheel even a tiny bit the vehicle moves a lot. It is similar to the old days of those short wheelbase Jeeps and you hear of people complaining in about steering themselves off the road. I also own a short vehicle being a Volvo XC60 but that is fine compared to this. The safety issue here, is that if a driver is not as experienced and takes their eyes off the road even for an instance that any normal reaction to the steering wheel could be deadly. I am older, in my 50’s with a a lot of experience driving and even I am nervous about this, to the point that if I sneezed I would worry about a slight movement pushing me off the road or into oncoming traffic. My question is, is there oversight on standards for a minimum amount of steering per how it affects the vehicle? I have talked with other owners of same vehicle, but they have the longer wheelbase, they have no issues, so it leads me to wonder if Ram uses the same steering on all vans, which would explain the problem, as there needs to be different steering for a very short wheelbase like mine vs a longer wheelbase vehicle. It is so bad that I will not let any of my 3 daughters drive this van. Also, when I first purchased this van new, I did reach out to Ram about this and never heard any reply, this is unacceptable. My plan going forward is to sell this van, as I recently drove a standard length Ford Transit and it drove so much safer than mine!! My hope in this email, is that the Board investigates this for safety issues, I certainly hope that no lives have been lost, and if my email can save anyone somewhere then that is a mission accomplished; And if anyone at Ram know about this and didn’t do anything then they are liable.
Mfg Campaign: 11455402
Recall Date: Mar 6, 2022
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
VISIBILITY/WIPER
Potential Consequences:
When driving on the expressway at highway speeds in this 2021 Ram 2500, the side mirrors started to vibrate and folded/slammed into the vehicle. Rear and blind spot visibility was eliminated. Fortunately, a passenger could adjust passenger side and driver could adjust driver sidemirror, but they are now damaged and do not properly stay in position. A online Dodge Ram Forum indicates this is a common problem. DANGEROUS!
Corrective Action:
When driving on the expressway at highway speeds in this 2021 Ram 2500, the side mirrors started to vibrate and folded/slammed into the vehicle. Rear and blind spot visibility was eliminated. Fortunately, a passenger could adjust passenger side and driver could adjust driver sidemirror, but they are now damaged and do not properly stay in position. A online Dodge Ram Forum indicates this is a common problem. DANGEROUS!
Additional Notes:
When driving on the expressway at highway speeds in this 2021 Ram 2500, the side mirrors started to vibrate and folded/slammed into the vehicle. Rear and blind spot visibility was eliminated. Fortunately, a passenger could adjust passenger side and driver could adjust driver sidemirror, but they are now damaged and do not properly stay in position. A online Dodge Ram Forum indicates this is a common problem. DANGEROUS!
Mfg Campaign: 11447829
Recall Date: Jan 18, 2022
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
LANE DEPARTURE: BLIND SPOT DETECTION
Potential Consequences:
The contact owns a 2021 Ram Promaster 1500. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, the blind spot monitoring system was not working properly. The system continued to play an audible chime. The system was registering that vehicles were nearby even though there was none. The contact spoke with an unknown local dealer but, the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was not contacted. The failure mileage was approximately 300.
Corrective Action:
The contact owns a 2021 Ram Promaster 1500. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, the blind spot monitoring system was not working properly. The system continued to play an audible chime. The system was registering that vehicles were nearby even though there was none. The contact spoke with an unknown local dealer but, the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was not contacted. The failure mileage was approximately 300.
Additional Notes:
The contact owns a 2021 Ram Promaster 1500. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, the blind spot monitoring system was not working properly. The system continued to play an audible chime. The system was registering that vehicles were nearby even though there was none. The contact spoke with an unknown local dealer but, the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was not contacted. The failure mileage was approximately 300.
Mfg Campaign: 11444540
Recall Date: Dec 21, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
LANE DEPARTURE: BLIND SPOT DETECTION
Potential Consequences:
Since brand new, blind spot monitoring system would turn itself off repeatedly after being turned on. I cannot replicate how or why it occurs and it has happened at various highway and lower speeds.
Corrective Action:
Since brand new, blind spot monitoring system would turn itself off repeatedly after being turned on. I cannot replicate how or why it occurs and it has happened at various highway and lower speeds.
Additional Notes:
Since brand new, blind spot monitoring system would turn itself off repeatedly after being turned on. I cannot replicate how or why it occurs and it has happened at various highway and lower speeds.
Mfg Campaign: 11443981
Recall Date: Dec 16, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
SEAT BELTS
Potential Consequences:
The contact owns a 2021 Ram Promaster 3500. The contact stated that while there were passengers occupying the dinette booth, the seat belts failed to accommodate the passenger. The local dealer was not contacted. The vehicle was diagnosed and repaired. The manufacturer was notified however, no further assistance was provided. The approximate failure mileage was 1,200. Consumer stated he would like to withdrawal the complaint.*JB
Corrective Action:
The contact owns a 2021 Ram Promaster 3500. The contact stated that while there were passengers occupying the dinette booth, the seat belts failed to accommodate the passenger. The local dealer was not contacted. The vehicle was diagnosed and repaired. The manufacturer was notified however, no further assistance was provided. The approximate failure mileage was 1,200. Consumer stated he would like to withdrawal the complaint.*JB
Additional Notes:
The contact owns a 2021 Ram Promaster 3500. The contact stated that while there were passengers occupying the dinette booth, the seat belts failed to accommodate the passenger. The local dealer was not contacted. The vehicle was diagnosed and repaired. The manufacturer was notified however, no further assistance was provided. The approximate failure mileage was 1,200. Consumer stated he would like to withdrawal the complaint.*JB
Mfg Campaign: 11441581
Recall Date: Nov 24, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
SERVICE BRAKES
Potential Consequences:
After van was put in reverse, when put in forward, the left rear caliper seized up and wheel would not turn. Was able to free wheel after putting in forward and reverse a few times. Seized again later that day. Was able to free up again and drive to dealer. Dealer stated rear and front driver-side calipers were not functioning correctly and will need replaced. Currently, van is at dealer awaiting repair. There was no accident. I don't recall any warning lights.
Corrective Action:
After van was put in reverse, when put in forward, the left rear caliper seized up and wheel would not turn. Was able to free wheel after putting in forward and reverse a few times. Seized again later that day. Was able to free up again and drive to dealer. Dealer stated rear and front driver-side calipers were not functioning correctly and will need replaced. Currently, van is at dealer awaiting repair. There was no accident. I don't recall any warning lights.
Additional Notes:
After van was put in reverse, when put in forward, the left rear caliper seized up and wheel would not turn. Was able to free wheel after putting in forward and reverse a few times. Seized again later that day. Was able to free up again and drive to dealer. Dealer stated rear and front driver-side calipers were not functioning correctly and will need replaced. Currently, van is at dealer awaiting repair. There was no accident. I don't recall any warning lights.
Mfg Campaign: 11439264
Recall Date: Nov 3, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
LANE DEPARTURE: BLIND SPOT DETECTION
Potential Consequences:
The Blind Spot Detector is not working. The van can be inspected upon request. This is a large vehicle and blind spot detection is an extremely important safety feature. A Dodge dealer found the following stored codes: U1700-87, c100B29, and c100e29 - I don't know if these are blind spot sensor codes or not. They have indicated they do not know how to fix it. This van is a Ram ProMaster 3500 that Jayco has converted to a class B RV (Jayco Swift T). It has not been inspected by Jayco or any others. The message center in the dash indicates the Blind Spot Detector is Disabled each time the van is started. This has appeared from the time of purchase of the van in early July. It continues to this day.
Corrective Action:
The Blind Spot Detector is not working. The van can be inspected upon request. This is a large vehicle and blind spot detection is an extremely important safety feature. A Dodge dealer found the following stored codes: U1700-87, c100B29, and c100e29 - I don't know if these are blind spot sensor codes or not. They have indicated they do not know how to fix it. This van is a Ram ProMaster 3500 that Jayco has converted to a class B RV (Jayco Swift T). It has not been inspected by Jayco or any others. The message center in the dash indicates the Blind Spot Detector is Disabled each time the van is started. This has appeared from the time of purchase of the van in early July. It continues to this day.
Additional Notes:
The Blind Spot Detector is not working. The van can be inspected upon request. This is a large vehicle and blind spot detection is an extremely important safety feature. A Dodge dealer found the following stored codes: U1700-87, c100B29, and c100e29 - I don't know if these are blind spot sensor codes or not. They have indicated they do not know how to fix it. This van is a Ram ProMaster 3500 that Jayco has converted to a class B RV (Jayco Swift T). It has not been inspected by Jayco or any others. The message center in the dash indicates the Blind Spot Detector is Disabled each time the van is started. This has appeared from the time of purchase of the van in early July. It continues to this day.
Mfg Campaign: 11435496
Recall Date: Oct 5, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
UNKNOWN OR OTHER
Potential Consequences:
RV build from Forest River/Coachmen. Nova model. Inverter settings were incorrect from the factory. This in turn caused too much voltage to go to house battery. House battery was then out gassing hydrogen into the coach. This hydrogen collected inside and was setting off the CO detector.
Corrective Action:
RV build from Forest River/Coachmen. Nova model. Inverter settings were incorrect from the factory. This in turn caused too much voltage to go to house battery. House battery was then out gassing hydrogen into the coach. This hydrogen collected inside and was setting off the CO detector.
Additional Notes:
RV build from Forest River/Coachmen. Nova model. Inverter settings were incorrect from the factory. This in turn caused too much voltage to go to house battery. House battery was then out gassing hydrogen into the coach. This hydrogen collected inside and was setting off the CO detector.
Mfg Campaign: 11431120
Recall Date: Aug 30, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
UNKNOWN OR OTHER
Potential Consequences:
THOR cabinet fell off also pulling down microwave. This cabinet contains all the HVAC controls, wifi connectivity, system control panel, and solar control panel. The passenger bench seat with seat belts is across from this cabinet. No one was hurt. The cabinet was hanging by its wires. The dealer came to our house to examine damage. No warning, No visible signs that it was coming apart.
Corrective Action:
THOR cabinet fell off also pulling down microwave. This cabinet contains all the HVAC controls, wifi connectivity, system control panel, and solar control panel. The passenger bench seat with seat belts is across from this cabinet. No one was hurt. The cabinet was hanging by its wires. The dealer came to our house to examine damage. No warning, No visible signs that it was coming apart.
Additional Notes:
THOR cabinet fell off also pulling down microwave. This cabinet contains all the HVAC controls, wifi connectivity, system control panel, and solar control panel. The passenger bench seat with seat belts is across from this cabinet. No one was hurt. The cabinet was hanging by its wires. The dealer came to our house to examine damage. No warning, No visible signs that it was coming apart.
Mfg Campaign: 11430637
Recall Date: Aug 26, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
SERVICE BRAKES
Potential Consequences:
On August 5, I descended on California Highway 88 East from the Carson Pass; less than 1 mile down a warning appeared to “Service Brake System”. The warning disappeared but the “brake” light on the instrument cluster remained on. I took the vehicle to Carson Dodge on August 6. The dealer performed diagnostics and made two repairs based on generated codes (C1223-68 & P0556). I picked it up on August 13 and drove about 200 miles; the warning re-appeared each time I drove it. I returned the vehicle to Carson Dodge on August 16. The “brake” warning was visible both times it was in for service. The 8/16 work order shows the same problem codes as the August 6 work order. The 8/16 order states that the technician was told by Star (Dodge technical support) that the warning was “normal operations caused by extended braking from a high altitude” so no repairs were required (and ignoring the two codes). I contacted Dodge Customer Service on 8/16. Jagen, a Promaster Case Manager called on 8/17 and told me that he investigated the issue and the “Service Brake System” safety warning was normal when going downhill. I asked if it was normal then where this was published; he said it was proprietary information and not published. I asked if he would provide confirmation in writing; he refused. “Jim”, a supervisor, called on 8/24; he repeated that going downhill would result in the warning light coming on and this was normal operations. That a safety warning consistently appears in normal driving on ordinary roads (e.g. from South Lake Tahoe to Carson City on Highway 50) and is “normal operations” is absurd. If I ignore this warning as “normal operations”, then how do I know when there is an actual problem? If normal, why isn’t it published anywhere? I am unable to confidently use the vehicle as I can’t know if the brakes will function. Brake reliability is a life-threatening safety issue, yet Dodge is telling me to ignore the vehicle’s safety warnings.
Corrective Action:
On August 5, I descended on California Highway 88 East from the Carson Pass; less than 1 mile down a warning appeared to “Service Brake System”. The warning disappeared but the “brake” light on the instrument cluster remained on. I took the vehicle to Carson Dodge on August 6. The dealer performed diagnostics and made two repairs based on generated codes (C1223-68 & P0556). I picked it up on August 13 and drove about 200 miles; the warning re-appeared each time I drove it. I returned the vehicle to Carson Dodge on August 16. The “brake” warning was visible both times it was in for service. The 8/16 work order shows the same problem codes as the August 6 work order. The 8/16 order states that the technician was told by Star (Dodge technical support) that the warning was “normal operations caused by extended braking from a high altitude” so no repairs were required (and ignoring the two codes). I contacted Dodge Customer Service on 8/16. Jagen, a Promaster Case Manager called on 8/17 and told me that he investigated the issue and the “Service Brake System” safety warning was normal when going downhill. I asked if it was normal then where this was published; he said it was proprietary information and not published. I asked if he would provide confirmation in writing; he refused. “Jim”, a supervisor, called on 8/24; he repeated that going downhill would result in the warning light coming on and this was normal operations. That a safety warning consistently appears in normal driving on ordinary roads (e.g. from South Lake Tahoe to Carson City on Highway 50) and is “normal operations” is absurd. If I ignore this warning as “normal operations”, then how do I know when there is an actual problem? If normal, why isn’t it published anywhere? I am unable to confidently use the vehicle as I can’t know if the brakes will function. Brake reliability is a life-threatening safety issue, yet Dodge is telling me to ignore the vehicle’s safety warnings.
Additional Notes:
On August 5, I descended on California Highway 88 East from the Carson Pass; less than 1 mile down a warning appeared to “Service Brake System”. The warning disappeared but the “brake” light on the instrument cluster remained on. I took the vehicle to Carson Dodge on August 6. The dealer performed diagnostics and made two repairs based on generated codes (C1223-68 & P0556). I picked it up on August 13 and drove about 200 miles; the warning re-appeared each time I drove it. I returned the vehicle to Carson Dodge on August 16. The “brake” warning was visible both times it was in for service. The 8/16 work order shows the same problem codes as the August 6 work order. The 8/16 order states that the technician was told by Star (Dodge technical support) that the warning was “normal operations caused by extended braking from a high altitude” so no repairs were required (and ignoring the two codes). I contacted Dodge Customer Service on 8/16. Jagen, a Promaster Case Manager called on 8/17 and told me that he investigated the issue and the “Service Brake System” safety warning was normal when going downhill. I asked if it was normal then where this was published; he said it was proprietary information and not published. I asked if he would provide confirmation in writing; he refused. “Jim”, a supervisor, called on 8/24; he repeated that going downhill would result in the warning light coming on and this was normal operations. That a safety warning consistently appears in normal driving on ordinary roads (e.g. from South Lake Tahoe to Carson City on Highway 50) and is “normal operations” is absurd. If I ignore this warning as “normal operations”, then how do I know when there is an actual problem? If normal, why isn’t it published anywhere? I am unable to confidently use the vehicle as I can’t know if the brakes will function. Brake reliability is a life-threatening safety issue, yet Dodge is telling me to ignore the vehicle’s safety warnings.
Mfg Campaign: 11430380
Recall Date: Aug 24, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Potential Consequences:
August 6, 2021 NHTSA Safety Issue ID: 21V3960000 As a first-time purchaser of an RV, what I had hoped would be an answer to some of my life’s difficulties has turned out to be a nightmare. I walked into nothing less than a predatory vehicle purchasing experience with General RV in Ashland VA and the worst customer care experience ever from Thor Motor Coach, based in Elkhart, IN. Currently, I am stuck with a brand new 2022 Thor Scope Class B RV that has been sitting in my driveway since the day I purchased it on June 29th, 2021. Between July 1st and July 7th 2021, I have spoken with Thor Motor Coach customer care many times. On July 15th, I wrote a letter to Thor and delivered it by email per a rep's suggestion. 1.There’s a Safety Recall on Thor Motor Coach Scope 18M I learned through the Thor Motor Coach owner’s blog that there is a safety recall on some of the Thor Scope 2022 vehicles. The article dated June 5th 2021 https://www.rvtravel.com states that letters would go out to owners about the safety recall by July 26th 2021. I contacted Thor Motor Coach and spoke to a customer care rep, who verified on July 12, 2021, that there is a safety recall on the VIN associated with the vehicle I purchased, specifically that the Flex 190 solar panel junction box may overheat due to an electrical short and cause a fire and potential injury. Thor Motor Coach customer care recommended that I not drive the vehicle due to the safety recall, so in addition to the low clearance generator/batteries, and bottoming out issue that I've reported to NHTSA, the vehicle is not in safe driving condition and therefore remains in my driveway. To date, I have not received any written notification about the problem nor potential unsafe condition of the vehicle although NHTSA has posted notices under the Safety Issue ID number 21V3960000, but not the VIN.
Corrective Action:
August 6, 2021 NHTSA Safety Issue ID: 21V3960000 As a first-time purchaser of an RV, what I had hoped would be an answer to some of my life’s difficulties has turned out to be a nightmare. I walked into nothing less than a predatory vehicle purchasing experience with General RV in Ashland VA and the worst customer care experience ever from Thor Motor Coach, based in Elkhart, IN. Currently, I am stuck with a brand new 2022 Thor Scope Class B RV that has been sitting in my driveway since the day I purchased it on June 29th, 2021. Between July 1st and July 7th 2021, I have spoken with Thor Motor Coach customer care many times. On July 15th, I wrote a letter to Thor and delivered it by email per a rep's suggestion. 1.There’s a Safety Recall on Thor Motor Coach Scope 18M I learned through the Thor Motor Coach owner’s blog that there is a safety recall on some of the Thor Scope 2022 vehicles. The article dated June 5th 2021 https://www.rvtravel.com states that letters would go out to owners about the safety recall by July 26th 2021. I contacted Thor Motor Coach and spoke to a customer care rep, who verified on July 12, 2021, that there is a safety recall on the VIN associated with the vehicle I purchased, specifically that the Flex 190 solar panel junction box may overheat due to an electrical short and cause a fire and potential injury. Thor Motor Coach customer care recommended that I not drive the vehicle due to the safety recall, so in addition to the low clearance generator/batteries, and bottoming out issue that I've reported to NHTSA, the vehicle is not in safe driving condition and therefore remains in my driveway. To date, I have not received any written notification about the problem nor potential unsafe condition of the vehicle although NHTSA has posted notices under the Safety Issue ID number 21V3960000, but not the VIN.
Additional Notes:
August 6, 2021 NHTSA Safety Issue ID: 21V3960000 As a first-time purchaser of an RV, what I had hoped would be an answer to some of my life’s difficulties has turned out to be a nightmare. I walked into nothing less than a predatory vehicle purchasing experience with General RV in Ashland VA and the worst customer care experience ever from Thor Motor Coach, based in Elkhart, IN. Currently, I am stuck with a brand new 2022 Thor Scope Class B RV that has been sitting in my driveway since the day I purchased it on June 29th, 2021. Between July 1st and July 7th 2021, I have spoken with Thor Motor Coach customer care many times. On July 15th, I wrote a letter to Thor and delivered it by email per a rep's suggestion. 1.There’s a Safety Recall on Thor Motor Coach Scope 18M I learned through the Thor Motor Coach owner’s blog that there is a safety recall on some of the Thor Scope 2022 vehicles. The article dated June 5th 2021 https://www.rvtravel.com states that letters would go out to owners about the safety recall by July 26th 2021. I contacted Thor Motor Coach and spoke to a customer care rep, who verified on July 12, 2021, that there is a safety recall on the VIN associated with the vehicle I purchased, specifically that the Flex 190 solar panel junction box may overheat due to an electrical short and cause a fire and potential injury. Thor Motor Coach customer care recommended that I not drive the vehicle due to the safety recall, so in addition to the low clearance generator/batteries, and bottoming out issue that I've reported to NHTSA, the vehicle is not in safe driving condition and therefore remains in my driveway. To date, I have not received any written notification about the problem nor potential unsafe condition of the vehicle although NHTSA has posted notices under the Safety Issue ID number 21V3960000, but not the VIN.
Mfg Campaign: 11428036
Recall Date: Aug 6, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
UNKNOWN OR OTHER
Potential Consequences:
August 6, 2021 NHTSA Safety Issue ID: 21V3960000 As a first-time purchaser of an RV, what I had hoped would be an answer to some of my life’s difficulties has turned out to be a nightmare. I walked into nothing less than a predatory vehicle purchasing experience with General RV in Ashland VA and the worst customer care experience ever from Thor Motor Coach, based in Elkhart, IN. Currently, I am stuck with a brand new 2022 Thor Scope Class B RV that has been sitting in my driveway since the day I purchased it on June 29th, 2021. Between July 1st and July 7th 2021, I have spoken with Thor Motor Coach customer care many times. On July 15th, I wrote a letter to Thor and delivered it by email per a rep's suggestion. 1.There’s a Safety Recall on Thor Motor Coach Scope 18M I learned through the Thor Motor Coach owner’s blog that there is a safety recall on some of the Thor Scope 2022 vehicles. The article dated June 5th 2021 https://www.rvtravel.com states that letters would go out to owners about the safety recall by July 26th 2021. I contacted Thor Motor Coach and spoke to a customer care rep, who verified on July 12, 2021, that there is a safety recall on the VIN associated with the vehicle I purchased, specifically that the Flex 190 solar panel junction box may overheat due to an electrical short and cause a fire and potential injury. Thor Motor Coach customer care recommended that I not drive the vehicle due to the safety recall, so in addition to the low clearance generator/batteries, and bottoming out issue that I've reported to NHTSA, the vehicle is not in safe driving condition and therefore remains in my driveway. To date, I have not received any written notification about the problem nor potential unsafe condition of the vehicle although NHTSA has posted notices under the Safety Issue ID number 21V3960000, but not the VIN.
Corrective Action:
August 6, 2021 NHTSA Safety Issue ID: 21V3960000 As a first-time purchaser of an RV, what I had hoped would be an answer to some of my life’s difficulties has turned out to be a nightmare. I walked into nothing less than a predatory vehicle purchasing experience with General RV in Ashland VA and the worst customer care experience ever from Thor Motor Coach, based in Elkhart, IN. Currently, I am stuck with a brand new 2022 Thor Scope Class B RV that has been sitting in my driveway since the day I purchased it on June 29th, 2021. Between July 1st and July 7th 2021, I have spoken with Thor Motor Coach customer care many times. On July 15th, I wrote a letter to Thor and delivered it by email per a rep's suggestion. 1.There’s a Safety Recall on Thor Motor Coach Scope 18M I learned through the Thor Motor Coach owner’s blog that there is a safety recall on some of the Thor Scope 2022 vehicles. The article dated June 5th 2021 https://www.rvtravel.com states that letters would go out to owners about the safety recall by July 26th 2021. I contacted Thor Motor Coach and spoke to a customer care rep, who verified on July 12, 2021, that there is a safety recall on the VIN associated with the vehicle I purchased, specifically that the Flex 190 solar panel junction box may overheat due to an electrical short and cause a fire and potential injury. Thor Motor Coach customer care recommended that I not drive the vehicle due to the safety recall, so in addition to the low clearance generator/batteries, and bottoming out issue that I've reported to NHTSA, the vehicle is not in safe driving condition and therefore remains in my driveway. To date, I have not received any written notification about the problem nor potential unsafe condition of the vehicle although NHTSA has posted notices under the Safety Issue ID number 21V3960000, but not the VIN.
Additional Notes:
August 6, 2021 NHTSA Safety Issue ID: 21V3960000 As a first-time purchaser of an RV, what I had hoped would be an answer to some of my life’s difficulties has turned out to be a nightmare. I walked into nothing less than a predatory vehicle purchasing experience with General RV in Ashland VA and the worst customer care experience ever from Thor Motor Coach, based in Elkhart, IN. Currently, I am stuck with a brand new 2022 Thor Scope Class B RV that has been sitting in my driveway since the day I purchased it on June 29th, 2021. Between July 1st and July 7th 2021, I have spoken with Thor Motor Coach customer care many times. On July 15th, I wrote a letter to Thor and delivered it by email per a rep's suggestion. 1.There’s a Safety Recall on Thor Motor Coach Scope 18M I learned through the Thor Motor Coach owner’s blog that there is a safety recall on some of the Thor Scope 2022 vehicles. The article dated June 5th 2021 https://www.rvtravel.com states that letters would go out to owners about the safety recall by July 26th 2021. I contacted Thor Motor Coach and spoke to a customer care rep, who verified on July 12, 2021, that there is a safety recall on the VIN associated with the vehicle I purchased, specifically that the Flex 190 solar panel junction box may overheat due to an electrical short and cause a fire and potential injury. Thor Motor Coach customer care recommended that I not drive the vehicle due to the safety recall, so in addition to the low clearance generator/batteries, and bottoming out issue that I've reported to NHTSA, the vehicle is not in safe driving condition and therefore remains in my driveway. To date, I have not received any written notification about the problem nor potential unsafe condition of the vehicle although NHTSA has posted notices under the Safety Issue ID number 21V3960000, but not the VIN.
Mfg Campaign: 11428036
Recall Date: Aug 6, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
STRUCTURE:BODY
Potential Consequences:
Vehicle bottomed out and lodged on concrete entering driveway. Thor Scope Ram Promaster 1500 Chassis sits low and Thor installed Cummins Onan generator and 2 Trojan batteries under the chassis, that sit 2 or more inches below the rear axle against the Cummins install guidelines. The generator needs 6 to 8 inches for ventilation according to manual and RV mechanics. Both generator and batteries collocated together coming in contact with road debris, objects, water on roadways may cause critical failure of systems resulting in hazardous conditions (stalling, loss of control, fire, explosion) to drivers.
Corrective Action:
Vehicle bottomed out and lodged on concrete entering driveway. Thor Scope Ram Promaster 1500 Chassis sits low and Thor installed Cummins Onan generator and 2 Trojan batteries under the chassis, that sit 2 or more inches below the rear axle against the Cummins install guidelines. The generator needs 6 to 8 inches for ventilation according to manual and RV mechanics. Both generator and batteries collocated together coming in contact with road debris, objects, water on roadways may cause critical failure of systems resulting in hazardous conditions (stalling, loss of control, fire, explosion) to drivers.
Additional Notes:
Vehicle bottomed out and lodged on concrete entering driveway. Thor Scope Ram Promaster 1500 Chassis sits low and Thor installed Cummins Onan generator and 2 Trojan batteries under the chassis, that sit 2 or more inches below the rear axle against the Cummins install guidelines. The generator needs 6 to 8 inches for ventilation according to manual and RV mechanics. Both generator and batteries collocated together coming in contact with road debris, objects, water on roadways may cause critical failure of systems resulting in hazardous conditions (stalling, loss of control, fire, explosion) to drivers.
Mfg Campaign: 11423695
Recall Date: Jul 7, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
SUSPENSION
Potential Consequences:
Vehicle bottomed out and lodged on concrete entering driveway. Thor Scope Ram Promaster 1500 Chassis sits low and Thor installed Cummins Onan generator and 2 Trojan batteries under the chassis, that sit 2 or more inches below the rear axle against the Cummins install guidelines. The generator needs 6 to 8 inches for ventilation according to manual and RV mechanics. Both generator and batteries collocated together coming in contact with road debris, objects, water on roadways may cause critical failure of systems resulting in hazardous conditions (stalling, loss of control, fire, explosion) to drivers.
Corrective Action:
Vehicle bottomed out and lodged on concrete entering driveway. Thor Scope Ram Promaster 1500 Chassis sits low and Thor installed Cummins Onan generator and 2 Trojan batteries under the chassis, that sit 2 or more inches below the rear axle against the Cummins install guidelines. The generator needs 6 to 8 inches for ventilation according to manual and RV mechanics. Both generator and batteries collocated together coming in contact with road debris, objects, water on roadways may cause critical failure of systems resulting in hazardous conditions (stalling, loss of control, fire, explosion) to drivers.
Additional Notes:
Vehicle bottomed out and lodged on concrete entering driveway. Thor Scope Ram Promaster 1500 Chassis sits low and Thor installed Cummins Onan generator and 2 Trojan batteries under the chassis, that sit 2 or more inches below the rear axle against the Cummins install guidelines. The generator needs 6 to 8 inches for ventilation according to manual and RV mechanics. Both generator and batteries collocated together coming in contact with road debris, objects, water on roadways may cause critical failure of systems resulting in hazardous conditions (stalling, loss of control, fire, explosion) to drivers.
Mfg Campaign: 11423695
Recall Date: Jul 7, 2021
Chrysler (fca Us, Llc)
Defect Description:
UNKNOWN OR OTHER
Potential Consequences:
Vehicle bottomed out and lodged on concrete entering driveway. Thor Scope Ram Promaster 1500 Chassis sits low and Thor installed Cummins Onan generator and 2 Trojan batteries under the chassis, that sit 2 or more inches below the rear axle against the Cummins install guidelines. The generator needs 6 to 8 inches for ventilation according to manual and RV mechanics. Both generator and batteries collocated together coming in contact with road debris, objects, water on roadways may cause critical failure of systems resulting in hazardous conditions (stalling, loss of control, fire, explosion) to drivers.
Corrective Action:
Vehicle bottomed out and lodged on concrete entering driveway. Thor Scope Ram Promaster 1500 Chassis sits low and Thor installed Cummins Onan generator and 2 Trojan batteries under the chassis, that sit 2 or more inches below the rear axle against the Cummins install guidelines. The generator needs 6 to 8 inches for ventilation according to manual and RV mechanics. Both generator and batteries collocated together coming in contact with road debris, objects, water on roadways may cause critical failure of systems resulting in hazardous conditions (stalling, loss of control, fire, explosion) to drivers.
Additional Notes:
Vehicle bottomed out and lodged on concrete entering driveway. Thor Scope Ram Promaster 1500 Chassis sits low and Thor installed Cummins Onan generator and 2 Trojan batteries under the chassis, that sit 2 or more inches below the rear axle against the Cummins install guidelines. The generator needs 6 to 8 inches for ventilation according to manual and RV mechanics. Both generator and batteries collocated together coming in contact with road debris, objects, water on roadways may cause critical failure of systems resulting in hazardous conditions (stalling, loss of control, fire, explosion) to drivers.
Mfg Campaign: 11423695
Recall Date: Jul 7, 2021
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